Qimen Turntable

1. Classic Text Orthodox Dial: Pure Dial, Full Rotation (Literal Meaning of "Dial")

Canonical Reference

Represented by the Qing Dynasty official work "Imperial Fixed Qi Men Bao Jian" and the orthodox folk classic "Qi Men Dun Jia Tong Zong," this tradition inherits from the Song Dynasty's "Dun Jia Fu Ying Jing" and "Dun Jia Yan Yi." It is the original source of the term "Rotating Disc."First Book Network。

Core Rule Features

• Rotate the entire view; relative positions remain unchanged.The Tian Pan Nine Stars, Ren Pan Eight Gates, and Shen Pan Eight Deities maintain a fixed internal order. They rotate together as a single unit, either clockwise or counterclockwise, without ever rearranging internally. The fixed sequence for the Nine Stars is: Peng, Ren, Chong, Fu, Ying, Rui (Qin), Zhu, Xin. The fixed sequence for the Eight Gates is: Xiu, Sheng, Shang, Du, Jing, Si, Jing, Kai. Throughout the process, they remain synchronized in their clockwise formation.Yide Xuan Qimen...。

• Stargate permanently bound: Tianpeng pairs with Xiumen, Tianrui with Simen, Tianchong with Shangmen, and Tianfu with Dunmen. The stars and doors advance and retreat together, always corresponding within the same palace.

• The Value Envoy advances through the eight palaces.Follow the "Value Enabler Follows Branch" rule: in Yang Dun, move clockwise; in Yin Dun, move counter-clockwise. Progress through the eight directions sector by sector.The Eight Gates never enter the central Five Palaces.8 hours to complete one full cycleChinese I Ching Strategy...。

• Standard Protocol of the Central PalaceThe Tianqin Star resides in Kun Palace 2 and rotates synchronously with the Tianrui Star. The Eight Doors and Eight Deities have no central palace position and are skipped during arrangement.

The current web trend: a hybrid spinner-plate with nine-grid fortune-telling mechanics.

Source Basis

A simplified adaptation derived from folk Feipan Qimen, this is the default rule set for most online Qimen apps today. Widely circulated, it is not the original rotating dial found in official Song Dynasty or earlier canonical texts.

Core Rule Features

• Keep the spinner shell; switch the value logic to use frisbee mechanics.: The Di Pan, Nine Stars, and Eight Deities follow the rotating wheel layout, but the Eight Doors are not rotated as a whole; instead, the Acting Door is positioned individually.Luo Shu Nine-Grid Number SequenceFeibu (Yang Dun 1→2→3→…→9, Yin Dun 9→8→7→…→1)Douyin。

• Center palace participates in counting; cycle every 9 steps.During the flying step, the five central palaces participate in the count (with Five entering Kun at position Two when encountered). Therefore, the Value Messenger completes one cycle in 9 hours, rather than the 8-step cycle described in ancient texts.

• The relative positions of the eight doors have been disrupted.Since the Value Star moves independently, the remaining eight Doors are filled sequentially into their fixed Palace positions. As a result, the relative positions of the Doors shift with each hour and are no longer permanently fixed as a whole.

• Stargate correspondence relationship invalidThe Nine Stars and Eight Doors no longer permanently occupy the same palace. Their combinations dynamically change with each time period, eliminating fixed pairings.

• 3. Which standard to follow? Choose based on the scenario.

  Pursuing orthodoxy, academic research, and the inheritance of ancient methods → Based on the pure ancient text compass.

  If you meet any of the following criteria, prioritize the Classic I Ching Wheel:

  • Conduct research on Qi Men Dun Jia literature, collate ancient texts, and restore the original methods.

  • Based on the traditional Luopan system, divination logic centers on: star-door pattern correspondence, interactions between Heaven and Earth Plate Qiyi (generating/restraining cycles), and overall victory/defeat dynamics between primary and secondary forces.

  • Rules must be rigorous and self-consistent, strictly adhering to the original definition of a "wheel".

  The core of this system's divination lies in the combination of stars and doors, qiyi patterns, and palace interactions. The Value Enforcer serves primarily as a contextual clue for the matter at hand, rather than being used independently to predict outcomes.

  Choose the Community Wheel if any of the following apply:

  • Daily self-use; prefer online tools for chart casting, ensuring alignment with mainstream software results.

  • The study focuses on modern folk Qi Men techniques, with divination centered on "Value Enforcer Flying and Po," single-palace patterns, and the interaction between Doors and Palaces.

  • Mass-market tools must align with the default usage habits of most users.

  This framework is the de facto standard in the civilian sector. Most online training courses and community discussions follow it, minimizing communication costs.